It can also make questionable decisions and repaint your room with infernal imagery!
Commission for @megapurrv who had asked for a comic about Thunderclash crushin’ on Rodimus and trying to impress him, so I did this silly thing! Thank you for commissioning me, I really hope you like it!!
you know who’s annoyingly good at this?? stephanie beatriz. (©brooklyn 99 fb)
scraplette replied to your post:
I think (wanna stress think) that it has something to do with a post floating around that post the negative aspects of Scott’s writing??? But it’s not a great post because, for example, it sets it up as (paraphrasing) “remember when Scott wrote a romance that involved brainwashing” and it’s like, yes, she did write that and it was a bad thing and that’s why it was presented as such in the fiction itself o.0 In the post there is no follow up to the examples given – it’s left at “Scott wrote a bad thing” the example for BDKO was that he abuses him emotionally and I’m just ??? Did we read the same comic? KO stayed on Cybertron for the sake of BD, because he was happier there. It’s sad (TAAO ended way too soon) but I can count on one hand the number of on page interactions the couple had.
Oh. Oh, wow.
Sometimes, my dear, I just get so tired.
You’d think that “X did a bad thing for romantic reasons, and it was portrayed throughout as a bad thing that ended terribly for everyone involved and incidentally was also an actual crime for which people went to jail,” would be sufficient, and yet. (And I really do wish Scott had had enough issues to play out the Blast Off/Onslaught plotline the way she wanted, because the plans she’s discussed after the fact sound amazing, but what we got on the page was very definitely presenting brainwashing people as bad. In fact, that’s one of the things IDW’s been pretty consistent on!)
If that’s the source, then yeah, I’m now more confident that I haven’t actually been missing something about KOBD. In all seriousness, the only interactions I remember between the two in IDW are Breakdown chiding Knock Out to be nicer to Moonracer (”for me”, to which KO agrees), the two going on a kind of second honeymoon together, and KO talking about staying on Cybertron for BD’s sake, and I was really scratching my head over what the objection was.
(TAAO did end way too soon, though. We so needed more KOBD and more Combaticons and more everything.)
How do you feel about people taking ships that have abusive/unhealthy dynamics and either ignoring them or trying to fix them? I’ve seen this done with several TF ships and it makes me wonder why ppl are so attached to these characters together in the first place. This isn’t necessarily meant to condemn anyone, I find certain aspects of Megastar and Tarma interesting, but I have a difficult time seeing past canon unless it’s meant to be an au where the circumstances are completely different.
I think this is one of those things that’s so rooted in the specifics of the pairing and the fic that it’s almost impossible to come up with a general answer.
Basically, I’ve seen it done both well and badly, and I think the space between the two is not always that wide. I think it depends on so many factors: Is the story placing an alternate interpretation on canon events? Could that interpretation make sense, or is it impossible to reconcile with canon? (And “canon” can be a tricky beast. Take Tarma as an example – we know Tarn was blackmailing Pharma, and what the outcome was, but they never meet on the page. I think there’s a range of possible dynamics that relationship could have, and still be roughly in line with canon.)
If the story is trying to “fix” canon events, does the fix make sense? Is it proportionate to the scale of the wrong? If it’s trying to mitigate what one character did in canon so that it’s not so bad, does that feel justified, or does it feel cheap (”It was my never-mentioned identical twin who stole all your stuff that time!”)? If it’s keeping the original wrong and just having that character try to make amends, is this something that can be made amends for, and is what the character is doing enough?
I know what you mean about some interpretations being so off-the-wall that you wonder why people are interested in that pairing to begin with if they’re going to change everything about it. I’ve sometimes wondered that about specific stories. But I think sometimes people see potential, not necessarily in the actual dynamic two characters have in canon, but in the dynamic two people like that, or in that position, could have. Sometimes that fuels a straight-up AU, and sometimes it fuels a story where the changes are more subtle. And just for me personally, how I feel about this is so tied to the specific story being told, it often comes down to individual interactions in the story, or even the inflection and style of the narrative. I’ve ended up hating specific versions of pairings I normally love, and loving pairings I didn’t think would do anything for me.
Zoom in on her face in the third gif.
She means this.
You are completely irreplaceable.This went deep man. Look at her face. I would love to know where this came from, what she was talking about. And it’s true. So true. Completely irreplaceable. You are you and there is no better you
Reblogging because I needed to see this message tonight, and something tells me someone else does too.
Reblogging as I think every one of my followers are special and impossible to replace.
Remember that.
You are all special and important, and Ellen is a gift.
On my goods days, I’m like: “Thanks, Ellen. You’re such a treasure. Thank-you for supporting positive mental health. I hardly even get a chance to watch your show, but small gestures like this are so important and so reaffirming. Thanks.”
On my bad days,I’m like: “Thanks, Ellen. You’re such a treasure. But you don’t know me, and I am highly-replaceable trash. Thanks, anyway.”
You aren’t trash. Just an irreplaceable person having a bad day.
In science fiction, AIs tend to malfunction due to some technicality of logic, such as that business with the laws of robotics and an AI reaching a dramatic, ironic conclusion.
Content regulation algorithms tell me that sci-fi authors are overly generous in these depictions.
“Why did cop bot arrest that nice elderly woman?”
“It insists she’s the mafia.”
“It thinks she’s in the mafia?”
“No. It thinks she’s an entire crime family. It filled out paperwork for multiple separate arrests after bringing her in.”
I have to comment on this because this is touching on something I see a lot of people (including Tumblr staff and everyone else who uses these kind of deep learning systems willy-nilly like this) don’t quite get: “Deep Reinforcement Learning” AI like these engage with reality in a fundamentally different way from humans. I see some people testing the algorithm and seeing where the “line” is, wondering whether it looks for things like color gradients, skin tone pixels, certain shapes, curves, or what have you. All of these attempts to understand the algorithm fail because there is nothing to understand. There is no line, because there is no logic. You will never be able to pin down the “criteria” the algorithm uses to identify content, because the algorithm does not use logic at all to identify anything, only raw statistical correlations on top of statistical correlations on top of statistical correlations. There is no thought, no analysis, no reasoning. It does all its tasks through sheer unconscious intuition. The neural network is a shambling sleepwalker. It is madness incarnate. It knows nothing of human concepts like reason. It will think granny is the mafia.
This is why a lot of people say AI are so dangerous. Not because they will one day wake up and be conscious and overthrow humanity, but that they (or at least this type of AI) are not and never will be conscious, and yet we’re relying on them to do things that require such human characteristics as logic and any sort of thought process whatsoever. Humans have a really bad tendency to anthropomorphize, and we’d like to think the AI is “making decisions” or “thinking,” but the truth is that what it’s doing is fundamentally different from either of those things. What we see as, say, a field of grass, a neural network may see as a bus stop. Not because there is actually a bus stop there, or that anything in the photo resembles a bus stop according to our understanding, but because the exact right pixels in the photo were shaded in the exact right way so that they just so happened to be statistically correlated with the arbitrary functions it created when it was repeatedly exposed to pictures of bus stops over and over. It doesn’t know what grass is, what a bus stop is, but it sure as hell will say with 99.999% certainty that one is in fact the other, for reasons you can’t understand, and will drive your automated bus off the road and into a ditch because of this undetectable statistical overlap. Because a few pixels were off in just the right way in just the right places and it got really, really confused for a second.
There, I even caught myself using the word “confused” to describe it. That’s not right, because “confused” is a human word. What’s happening with the AI is something we don’t have the language to describe.
Anyway what’s more, this sort of trickery can be mimicked. A human wouldn’t be able to figure it out, but another neural network can easily guess the statistical filters it uses to identify things and figure out how to alter images with some white noise in exactly the right way to make the algorithm think it’s actually something else. It’ll still look like the original image, just with some pixelated artifacts, but the algorithm will see it as something completely different. This is what’s known as a “single pixel attack.” I am fairly confident porn bot creators might end up cracking the content flagging algorithm and start putting up some weirdly pixelated porn anyway, and all of this will be in vain. All because Tumblr staff decided to rely on content moderation via slot machine.
TL;DR bots are illogical because they’re actually unknowable eldritch horrors made of spreadsheets and we don’t know how to stop them or how they got here, send help
This stuff is cool and much more interesting than the general-AI doomsaying anyway (which I will drag in the tags anyway). 🙂
Here’s an article about adversarial attacks on image recognition neural networks, and here’s another one about how your training data may mean that your system learns the wrong thing, like “this photo has sheep in” actually being “this photo has places that sheep graze in”.
@scraplette replied to your post:
Oh my GOODNESS! Can you imagine how the invention swap would go down! It would be insane! Skywarp’ s like “Yeah, so I got bored so I just made a cup phone and put a DECEPTICON logo on it” while jhiaxus rocks up with a sword that can feel pain. Everyone is confused and horrified.
OH MY GOD I ADORE IT. 😀
“It can feel pain? WHY?”
Jhiaxus is still beaming. “I don’t understand the question!”
Meanwhile, Skywarp is holding one side of the cup phone and just saying “Brrrrrng brrrrng… brrrrng brrrrrng… BRRRRNG BRRRRRRNG,” louder and louder until Thundercracker sighs and picks up the other end.
“What. Yes, I can hear you. Yes, very clearly. No, it’s not amazing. It’s not amazing because you made the string five feet long, Warp, I can hear you because you’re right there -” and then he flicks Skywarp’s wing to prove the point.
Brainstorm would come up with some kind of meta weapon that would take the whole concept of making a show about watching shows and feed it into itself backwards, creating an inverted meta-wormhole, or something. Nautica would be busily attaching warp engines to one of Wheeljack’s forcefield generators so they could go observe the birth of a star safely from inside the star. Trepan and Blackarachnia would just be holed up in a corner, avidly swapping tips and making everyone really worried.
(Froid would be banned because he kept bringing Sunder, and every once in a while he’d get in touch like, “No, no, I have a new invention I want to share! It’s incredibly revealing, you might even say it will turn the world of science inside out.”
“Is it Sunder again?”
“… yes I’ll just go now.”)
Controversial opinion time: I ship megatron with Soundwave and Soundwave is my favorite. I know Megaôp and Megastàr are more popular, and I’m ok with Megástar, but I absolutely hate waythe Megaöp fans treat the Decepticons in general and Soundwave gets reduced to a cheerleader/nanny for Megaöp babies if he’s even mentioned. At least with Megastár Soundwave gets treated with respect and the other Decepticons are more IC. I also hate how smugly superior M/O shippers can get toward Megastàr :(
Hi Anon,
I’ve seen a few stories that fall into what you’re talking about (and a few shippers who certainly have that smugness about M/O being a less “problematic” or “better” ship than M/S, as if “they’re the same physical size and not in a direct military hierarchy” erases any other power dynamics at play). But… well, I think it’s not fair to talk about M/O shippers as a group, when really it’s a minority of any group of shippers that tends to act obnoxiously. Most M/O shippers I know are entirely cool about other ships, whether or not they share them (and a fair number ship M/S or, yes, M/Soundwave too).
With that disclaimer: I think what can sometimes happen, not just with M/O but with hero/villain ships in general, is that some (by no means all) writers use them to “redeem” the villain… whether they mean to or not. There’s nothing wrong with a deliberately written redemption arc – they’re not my personal favourite usually (depends on the writing), but they’re a perfectly legit thing to do. But they’re hard to pull off well, without either making it so that the villain was never that bad and it was all a big misunderstanding, or so that the villain is an exception, corrupted by the rest of their faction (which works for some characters, but is a little harder to sell when it’s the leader of that faction). And sometimes, that effect is heightened because the writer isn’t consciously trying to write a redemption arc; it’s just that writing hero/villain makes them uncomfortable, so they’re hedging to make the villain less villainous. (I don’t think anyone ever hedges to make the hero less heroic.)
So – I get it, but let’s not paint all M/O or M/S shipper with the same brush, since this is really not all or most of them. Deal?
Soundwave’s exclusion is something else – I’d put that in the “inevitable but still really frustrating” pile. It sucks when your favourite character ends up as the “BFF who helps the couple get together” way more often than they end up as part of the main couple – especially when you ship them with one of a more popular couple. I absolutely sympathise!
read the full comic!
i have watched approximately 54535624664534 of these so here is my Ode to Hallmark Christmas Movies
My activity page this morning is literally just this post being @ed at me. I came out to watch some lighthearted heteronormative quasi-religious flirtation over the course of exactly one week* and I’m feeling so attacked right now.
* They almost all take place over the course of exactly a week. If you watch, every single one of them towards the end will mention “this past week” or in some very rare cases “these past two weeks”. I think it’s a literal requirement that none of these movies can take place over a longer or shorter period of time.










